EU associate citizenship

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  • #236788

    The Grocer
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    Do you want have associate membership of the EU after Brexit?
    Luxembourg MEP Charles Goerens thinks you should and has tabled an amendment to a Parliamentary report calling for the establishment of a European associate citizenship for citizens of a former member state who wish to be part of the European project.
    ECREU has now written to all members of the EU Parliament’s Constitutional Affairs Committee asking them to support it….

    See more:-
    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/840/CHARLES_GOERENS_home.html

  • #236789

    Shazzie
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    I’ve heard something along these lines.

    We are really interested in the idea. Not sure what would be involved yet obviously, but in principal it sounds good.

    It could be a realistic option to those of us left adrift by the Brexit vote.

    Fingers crossed !

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    russellsnr
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  • #236807

    KP
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    Aristotelic

    As nice as this concept would be for those Brits who want to keep themselves enslaved under the jackboot of the EU dictatorship, can anybody really see the EU saying, “okay, the UK is out of  the EU. We’re getting nothing financially from the UK any more and have no hold over the UK citizens, but we’re happy to give you  rights as EU citizens nonetheless”?
    Hmmmm, methinks that would be a big no-no for the EU. Yet more hyperbole in the onegoing EU struggle to keep their empire afloat!

    Let’s say that lots of retired UK ex-pat citizens living in Greece and elsewhere signed up to this fantasy ‘Associate EU citizenship’….. who would finance it? How would the EU get money out of you to administrate it, beyond perhaps a few hundred quid for the ‘passport’?
    One could ask a hundred questions of how this would or even could possibly work, beyond you giving up your UK passports and all your UK rights and just moving across to some ‘virtual’ citizenship and suddenly millions of retired people and others with expectations have to be supported in some way and maintained by the EU empire? :scratch:

    I really wouldn’t want to pin any hopes on this happening!
    Unless of course, the EU really IS the antichrist and you will have to sign your application forms in blood, promising your souls? :unsure:

  • #236810

    The Grocer
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    You may well be correct KP, however since becoming part of EU and benefiting by freedom of movement many EU countries have benefited from revenue income of UK citizens. (there is enough on the internet showing numbers of ex-pats in EU countries), annual expenditure plus property purchase etc etc.
    The removal of the right to reside could, and probably will limit this in the future. The EU can not be seen to favour UK nationals over non EU nations after Brexit, so an interim period of grace for application for Associate EU membership could indeed be viable. Of course as you say there will be cost..

     

  • #236813

    KP
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    Aristotelic

    Yes, particularly as most of you are all pensioners and therefore still expecting a pension whilst not contributing financially in any meaningful manner.
    Let’s face it, neither the EU nanny, nor any of the EU states would be too willing to take up the burden of zillions of decrepit old pensioners falling apart and requiring a pension and medical aid etc. and none of you would be willing to give up your UK passports if you are to lose your pensions and support from the UK as a result! :rose:   :rose:

  • #236814

    The Grocer
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    Something tells me KP you are standing back and waiting for the onslaught  😆

    So I’ll start……Most people of pension age have contributed significantly to the UK economy throughout their working life and indeed paid in handsomely to the UK pension fund.

    I am sure you are well aware that after allowances residents pay taxes to their country of residence and in many cases health care & social contributions also, so their adopted country are not giving “free” medical aid etc.  Also countries do have the ability to cross charge medical care, as does the NHS the point is (from personal knowledge) the NHS find it too cumbersome to do so and hence are losing out on millions of pounds yet complain about being underfunded….

     

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