Bread Making machines and strong flour for making bread

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  • #158792

    mncdc
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    Neophyte

    Can anyone tell me if it is possible to buy a bread making machine in Kalamata please? Also where can I buy strong brown and white flour for bread making in the Kalamata area? Many thanks. ic_smile

  • #196517

    kiwi
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    Aristotelic

    I see no one has answered your first post…not very friendly, so welcome. Bread machine…no idea. Most knead with their hands and there is nothing more satisfying. I make my own bread and use ordinary flour which I mix with whatever is available at the time and include seeds. No recipe…bung it all in and add enough water to make the mix feel right, along with a drip of olive oil, salt and a small spoon of sugar mixed with the yeast. Trust me its not brain surgery…try it. Usually any Laiki market will sell flour in larger packs than the supermarkets who sell it by the thimbleful.

    Meanwhile there is an old Kalamatan named Jack who might know something further.

  • #196518

    jeanjeanie
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    Neophyte

    Hi, hope I can help. First of all, the machine; I have seen them on sale in Lidls in the past, but do not know if the brand offered was any good, also it’s not one of their regular lines. I brought a breadmaker (Panasonic, which I highly recommend) with me from UK. Unfortunately, I left it too near the worksurface edge one day, and when it started kneading it shook itself onto the floor. I like the machine so much I bought one on ebay and paid about £20 in shipping. To me it’s essential as my hands are too weak to do all that kneading, plus it makes excellent bread/dough of all varieties.

    Second, the flour; if you go to the bakers he may sell you the strong flour he uses himself (just depends on the baker) The flour for bread is called elevree (phonetic). You can ask for mavro for brown bread, or levco for white. I also recommend using the dried yeast you can get at Lidls. You can also get flour out in the rural area supermarkets. Look for large open paper sacks with a scoop in them. Just scoop out into a plastic bag what you want and get it weighed. Recently I also came across a new product in Petalidi, if you ever come out that way. A small supermarket is stocking 5kg sacks of flour. One is ‘kitrino’, a yellow one, and the other the usual white. The small bags in Kalamata supermarkets are more specialist bread flours such as wholemeal, the yellowish one for traditional village bread, some are organic flours. The other small bags of flour with ‘farina’ on them are for cakes etc, they are not strong flours, just the usual S.R. and plain.

    Hope this is enough info. I love the greek bread from the baker but sometimes it’s too hard for my husband’s teeth! Plus it doesn’t make the more genteel size of sandwich.

    best wishes

  • #196519

    KP
    Participant
    Aristotelic

    @jeanjeanie wrote:

    ……….I love the greek bread from the baker but sometimes it’s too hard for my husband’s teeth! Plus it doesn’t make the more genteel size of sandwich.

    Tell Peter to take out his teeth and attack the bread with his teeth in his hand and once it’s soft enough, then slip the teeth back in and chew it! :roll: Poor Peter…. having his teef discussed in public! He’ll be mortified! :mrgreen:
    As for the more ‘genteel size of sandwich’, I’ve eaten your lovely home made bread many times and don’t remember there being anything ‘genteel’ about it! :mrgreen:
    Hope that you’re both well…..

  • #196520

    kiwi
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    Aristotelic

    True, I have seen them in Lidl but they will only have them if they are in that months promotion so it’s a bit of Russian Roulette with them.

  • #196521

    The Grocer
    Participant
    Oracle

    In Kalamata try the electric shop on the corner of Ιατροπουλου directly in front of the large car park (lower end nearer the station)…..speaks excellent English and is very helpful. I found his prices there also very competitive…

  • #196522

    jeanjeanie
    Participant
    Neophyte

    Hi, just remembered last night where I had seen bread machines when I was looking to replace mine – in Praktiker. I couldn’t find any reviews of the models they had and in the end decided it was worth paying the shipping to get one I knew was excellent. KP is just one of my satisfied customers, and I have been complimented many times on my loaves. Almost caused a marital rift with my neighbour and wife visiting from France. As he worked from home, he prepared fresh bread for her homecoming from a day’s work. When she tasted mine she immediatley demanded ‘Why can’t you make bread like this?’ I found out he was using the pizza dough setting for everything.

    I also should mention about getting flour from a baker that it must be an actual baker where they make the bread on the premises. The one thatIi know in Kalamata is a small shop in the old town. It faces the canal and has a big pile of firewood outside – no doubt for his oven. He has a very good reputation for his bread, and he also makes currant buns!

    Will pm you Paul about Peter.

  • #196512

    geckophile397
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    Neophyte

    Hi there. We make our own bread, both in our breadmaker and from scratch. We find Lidl’s flour fine for the breadmaker, but for “Paul Hollywood’s Bloomer” which I love as it’s yum and made with olive oil, we find Lidl’s flour too “cakey” – even the one with a picture of bread on it. The best supermarket flour for doing hand made bread is one in a blue packet from Carrefour Marinopoulos. Sorry, can’t remember the name of it. But I believe bread/cake shops will sell you good strong bread flour if you ask. 😀

    Nearly forgot – we’ve seen breadmakers in Praktiker too. I’m sure like any electrical appliance they must have guarantees, and Praktiker’s customer service has been excellent in my experience.

  • #196513

    kiwi
    Participant
    Aristotelic

    Supermarket, that reminds me of Mannas flour in a yellow packet there are others same brand as well. I use the yellow packet in the picture for pastry and it is brilliant. Copy paste ‘ΑΛΕΥΡΙ ΜΑΝΝΑ’ into google. There is one available with bread picture on the front, and a corn one and a whole wheat.

    Nice to see so many GIH members back reb_bravo

  • #196514

    GlennB
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    Neophyte

    We bake in a breadmaker every other day and just use ordinary ‘hard’ white flour from the minimarkets, though sometimes brown/white mix.

    Lidl’s do a very good German ready mix flour where you add water only. The one with sunflower seeds is especially nice.

    Incidentally I sometimes picked up bags of ‘Robin Hood’ white flour without noticing they were about 3x the price of generic flour. Why it’s so pricey I have no idea.

  • #196515

    KP
    Participant
    Aristotelic

    @jeanjeanie wrote:

    ………. KP is just one of my satisfied customers, and I have been complimented many times on my loaves. .

    As Peter is one of my best friends I’m going to deny having ever noticed your loaves or been a satisfied customer! 😯

  • #196516

    geckophile397
    Participant
    Neophyte

    and I have been complimented many times on my loaves

    There was a time when I was complimented on my buns…those days are long gone, sadly. 😥 :unibrow:

    GlennB, we get those ready mix breads from Lidl too – we mix them half and half with flour. As you say, the sunflower one is yummy, as is the “Rustic”.

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